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Old Aug 20, 2011, 10:52 AM
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Adjustable caster/camber mount?

Is there any adjustable caster/camber mount for stock suspension, or for swift+bilsteinHD suspension???

I don't find any on the internet, and I want to adjust my caster, because my car pull left a lot and is aligned on the mark.


Thanks for your help guyz!
Old Aug 20, 2011, 10:57 AM
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+1

I'm in the market for camber plates for the exact set-up as well.
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An Australian company called Noltec makes a set of camber/caster mounts that fit stock struts. AMS used to sell them but I cant find them on their website anymore.
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These?
http://performanceshock.com/noltec/c...pair-cushioned

http://performanceshock.com/noltec/c...unt-pair-solid
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Those are the ones, I've had two sets on bilsteins myself.
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there are a few options out there,k-mac is one,these are pretty good and very adjustable but i bent the top plate from hitting the kerbs at buttonwillow,another is whiteline,the plate can be turned to give more caster but will limit your camber,i think the best option is the dms top plates,funny thing is these are all australian made,and the noltec plate already mentioned
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Huh?

If your alignment is correct, it won't pull to the side.

Actually, if it is aligned "correctly" the way the factory intended, it won't pull to the side. If it is aligned symmetrically, the crown in the road will pull it to the side. Not a hard pull, but if you let go of the wheel, it would drive itself off the road before long.

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It is I don't know why, but my caster and camber numbers are very off from side to side, this is why it pulls at high speed.

Whiteline plates work with stock suspension??
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Can you post the measurments?

You may have something bent that needs to be replaced and using caster plates would just hide the problem.

Could have the ecenctrics in opposite too...
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I dont asked measurements. What do you mean by eccentrics opposed??
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Noltec is nice and cheap; get the solid ones if you're interested in them though. Those cushioned ones blow.
Ground Control and Vorschlag also make them for the 8's and 9's. They both have greater caster and camber adjustment than the Noltecs, but are over twice the price, however, that is justifiable through the bearing upper spring perch to allow lateral deflection, whereas the Noltecs do not come with them. Vorschlag's have greater articulation and, iirc, are a little bit more costly than the GC unit.
Since Vorschlag quit selling their bearing spring perches seperate now, you're stuck with those two venders if you want the bearing upper spring perch, which I highly recommend.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the stack height is a bit lower on the vorschlags vs. the GC's.

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The vorschlag plates have caster adjustment???
Its hard to see on the pics, i just see the camber but i dont see if there is another plate under for caster...

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I got some Ciro Design Racing camber/caster plates for my Bilstein PSS9s. They are the same mounting as the stock suspension so I assume that they will work with those as well.

Anyway, you can always chat with the guys at Ciro to find out for sure.

http://www.cirodesignracing.com/Ciro...g/CONTACT.html
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Originally Posted by domyz
The vorschlag plates have caster adjustment???
Its hard to see on the pics, i just see the camber but i dont see if there is another plate under for caster...
The pics are crap and show no caster, but they for sure have it... it's been a few months since I've actually thought about it, but I'm very confident that the evo X's are the only ones that don't have adjustable caster. Give them a call though; they've always been super friendly to me and will only take about 5 seconds of your time to ask.

Originally Posted by nollij
I got some Ciro Design Racing camber/caster plates for my Bilstein PSS9s. They are the same mounting as the stock suspension so I assume that they will work with those as well.
Anyway, you can always chat with the guys at Ciro to find out for sure.

http://www.cirodesignracing.com/Ciro...g/CONTACT.html

Those are good, but a bit more expensive than the noltecs and don't offer the bearing perch like the GC/Vorschlag unit... so IMO, it's not worth it to pay about twice the price of the Noltec part.

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Originally Posted by domyz
I dont asked measurements. What do you mean by eccentrics opposed??
The upper strut bolt from the factory is an offset bolt. Arrow pointing to center of the car gives you roughly -1* of camber. Arrow pointed away from center of car and you will get roughly -2* of camber.

If you have them in wrong, for what ever reason and one is pointing to the center and one is pointing to the outside of the car, one wheel will have -1* and the other will have -2* of camber. This will definitely make the car pull to one side but everything would "look" ok to the typical technician other then simply not being able to get the camber close to equal.

Most alignments will also have slightly more (0.25* ish) positive camber on the tire that is closest to the center of the road. This is done so that the crown of the road is "compensated" for and allows the car to go straight despite the road being tilted slightly to allow water drainage. If you get a performance alignment where camber is set even, the car will pull slightly to the outside of the road, depending on how much crown there is. It's not a pull though really. If you let go of the wheel, it simply walks its way slowly to the low side of the road. If you have a pull...you have a bad alignment.



If you just want camber/caster plates for adjustablility and you will use it, great. But if you are doing it simply because your car doesn't drive straight and your alignment technician can't fix it then you either have something bent on the car or need to find a new alignment shop.

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